Lawbalization Episode 32: Balancing Growth and Values: Economic Policy, Social Capital, and the Future of Utah with Natalie Gochnour
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Episode Summary
In this episode, Jonathan sits down with Natalie Gochnour, director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute and associate dean at the University of Utah, to explore what drives long-term economic prosperity at the intersection of law, policy, and business. Drawing on her experience advising governors, leading economic research, and shaping public dialogue, Natalie breaks down Utah’s “economic success story,” from workforce strength and upward mobility to the often-overlooked power of social capital and trust. The conversation also tackles harder questions around growth, including housing, education, and the future of the Great Salt Lake, while offering a thoughtful framework for navigating political division through “mutual accommodation.” From Olympic legacy impacts to the role of higher education and personal leadership, this episode is a grounded, data-informed look at how policy decisions shape not just economies, but the way we live. Connect with Natalie on LinkedIn here.